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Sep 11
I ran across a couple of articles that were surprising and interesting.
The first Illegal immigrants from India on the rise came as somewhat of a surprise, but the comments accompanying the article were in no means as stupid and demeaning as they are when illegal immigrants from Mexico are the subject of the articles. Wonder why that is?
The other article by Mary Sanchez hits the nail on the head so to speak. In a column titled Minuteman patriotism is, at best, divisive Ms Sanchez points out some very interesting points about that group of vigilantes who claim to have the best interests of the United States in mind.
Take a moment a check them out.
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Bottom line is that we have laws regarding residency and immigration. If the laws don’t work, they need to change. If the process doesn’t work, it needs to change. But under no circumstances can we or should we bend the laws.
So let’s leave that up on the wall as the backdrop. ANY illegal immigration is currently forbidden, plain and simple. There is no excusing breaking of the laws, whether by Mexicans, Indians or anyone else.
Beyond that, so maybe you want to talk Mexicans versus Indians… Do you view them as the same? Maybe, maybe not.
The article indicates the Indians came here legally, at least initially, and overextended visas. I believe this is generally NOT the rule, but rather the exception. Yet we also have millions of Mexicans who didn’t even bother getting visas in the first place. We also have a large number of Indians who DON’T overextend their visas, and who do apply for and receive green cards and who patiently and lawfully follow the process rather than sneering at it as the Mexicans do.
Typically Indians are far more likely to speak fluent English than Mexicans are. Typically Indians arrive in the US with bachelors’, masters’ and even Ph.D.’s and work in IT, engineering and other sectors which require highly educated and skilled individuals. Typically Mexicans arrive with less than a high-school education and work in easily-replaceable, unskilled and semiskilled positions.
Seems like apples and oranges to me.
I just found the article interesting since the focus on illegal immigration is the Mexicans.
Nothing more than that.
Sure, because despite the apparent sudden increase in Indians who are now here illegally, the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US are still Mexicans. Note the article largely dealt with metrics gotten from Indians who are self-reporting their visa conundrums and overstays, as opposed to Mexicans who never even bothered with the process to begin with, let alone reporting themselves, to which many Mexicans illegals remain accordingly underreported and/or unreported.
The immigration debate is another issue without a right or wrong answer. Unfortunately, we have people on both sides of the issue going to the extremes. Somewhere in the middle is a logical and workable solution to the whole mess.
I do appreciate your common sense level headed participation in the discussions though. Perhaps we can all learn something here or at least people can learn to think for themselves.
At the moment, there is no “question” to have a right or wrong answer on. The current laws on the books outline the process for legal immigration, plain and simple. If this needs to change, then it must come before the legislature and be voted on. The problem is that if we suddenly lower the standards for immigration or worse yet, pursue amnesty, this becomes a slap in the face to the millions who patiently followed the process for coming here legally. It means that lawbreakers win.
And again, I don’t think I would even want to hear discussions about amnesty unless there was a similar reciprocal action ongoing with our neighbors. Amnesty, jobs and open borders in Mexico to Salvadoreans, Hondurans and others?
I don’t think we will see that coming soon. So why should we expect it any time soon in the US?
Agreed, but we will never see comprehensive reform out of this Congress. Too much partisianship and too many special interest groups trying to get their pet projects included.
In Mexico, they don’t have the jobs to support the influx of migrants from Central America and they don’t have the immigration problem we do because they have always enforced their laws and they haven’t been PC about it.
Starting back in the early 40′s we brought people in under the Bracero agreements, asked them to leave when we no longer needed them and for the most part, they left, only to be invited back when their cheap labor was needed. The problems we have today are of our own making and people need to realize that.
They need to take amnesty off the table as well as a “path to citizenship”. The majority of these people have no desire to give up citizenship with Mexico. We’re coming upon Mexican Independence Day celebrations on 16th of September. If you get a chance, watch the celebrations from Mexico City. It will blow you away and that goes on throughout the country.
Figure out a way, all aboveboard and out in the open to identify these people so we know who is here. Arrest and deport those with Class A misdemeanors and all felonies immediately. The rest, hell, give them a B1/B2 Laser visa and an I-94 so they can come and go. They will eventually self-deport.
At this point, if you have a program in place to allow Mexican citizens to traverse the border in the same manner as the Canadians, you will probably have a handle on the problem. Believe it or not, the Mexican people will obey the rule of law. But the system is so broken now, they simply ignore it for expediency…. There is no reason why it should take 8 months to get permission to travel to this country.