Ramos & Campeon - Loya Spin machine going “balls to the wall”!
Nov 30, 2007 Legal Actions
The spin machine of Joe Loya, father in law of convicted felon and former Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos is kicking into high gear as the time nears Monday for the appeal of their conviction to be heard before the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.
This would be a non issue and these two felons would be quietly serving their sentence were it not for the daddy in laws money. This was a point raised by the trial judge when she admonished Mr Loya about his attempts to influence public opinion during the trial.
One of the most ridiculous claims I’ve seen comes from the loony tunes at WND, and it is the first of many.
Ramos, Compean feared for their lives, Appeal contends border agents used deadly force justifiably
Ok, I can accept that if they truly feared for their lives. In a case like that, the shooting might be justified. Except……….
In the El Paso sector, as well as other sectors along the Mexican border, it is an established fact that drug smugglers are rarely armed. I believe it was reported that in the El Paso sector, under 2% that are caught are armed. Ramos and Campeon were well aware of these facts. Cops in a bad shoot have historically tried to cover their ass and move the blame elsewhere.
Furthermore, Ramos and Campeon’s actions after the fact, when they tried to sanitize the scene and destroy evidence, which they admitted to, is what convicted them. If they truly feared for their lives, then they would have left the scene as it was and let the shoot team do it’s job. No body, no evidence to counter their claims, they would be on the job today.
Perhaps the most ludicrous is todays bit of trash journalism from Corsi, Rights ‘denied’ Ramos, Compean
Convicts Ramos and Campeon had all their “rights” carefully maintained as is normal in a high profile case. There “rights” were preserved a hell of a lot more diliigently than those of Aldrete-Davilla who they shot in the ass as he was running from them.
The ‘wingy dingy’s” of the right seem to make a big deal of the fact that convicts Ramos and Campeon are being kept in solitary. For their own protection as most convicted law enforcement personnel are kept.
Monday will begin an interesting week. I still have a problem with the gun charge. But these two conviicted felons deserve at the minimum to serve 18 months hard time.
It matters not whether Aldrete-Davilla was a drug smuggler, an illegal or a combination. Any person who set foot in the United States is protected by the same human and civil rights we all enjoy.
I ask myself if the level of outrage and demands for release of these two would have been as great if the person they shot was a white, US citizen who was trying to make a little pocket change? Probably not!
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January 29th, 2008 at 11:03
Great post! It’s so hard to find anything on the Internet actually supporting this prosecution. What a sick bunch of people who call shooting at an unarmed man then trying to cover it up “just doing their job.” And even sicker that they now want to fire Johnny Sutton, for just doing HIS job.
Johnny Sutton’s job is to prosecute alleged crimes. When it’s obvious that one happens, he prosecutes it. What the hell are these people talking about? You don’t fire someone for doing what he’s supposed to do, even if you agree with the defendants!
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January 30th, 2008 at 8:50
Thanks.
This is the state this country has degenerated into.
There was a story a couple of months ago in the Houston Chronicle, a sob piece, about a former Border Patrol agent released from prison and how the community got together and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy this guy his own Mac Tool franchise, because he was a hero for having served time for violating an illegals civil rights.
Making heroes out of these people makes a mockery of the judicial system
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June 19th, 2008 at 8:23
Maybe the Mexican shouldn’t have been running drugs across the border. They should have taken a head shot instead of the butt.
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June 19th, 2008 at 8:26
1. They didn’t know what he was doing and had no justification in shooting. Being Mexican is not justification in the real world the rest of us live in.
2. These two buffoons used what, 30 something rounds to hit him in the ass once? A head shot woulda been a lucky shot
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June 24th, 2008 at 7:22
If the illegal alien drug runner had NOT been SMUGGLING DRUGS into OUR country in the FIRST place this whole sorry mess would NEVER have happened!
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July 21st, 2008 at 12:11
I guess they’ll let anyone have a website these days,
useful scale +100,000.99
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July 23rd, 2008 at 10:27
Yes they will, and aren’t you lucky that we are here to pass along the truth and dig through all of the hype and outright lies being thrown around.
Someone has to do it, and I’m the man!
But since you made the comment here, I assume you are interested in the Ramos-Compean fiasco.
Tell you what. I have read, page for page, volumes 1-12 of the transcript and I intend to read all 18.
One thing is very evident. All these two fucktards needed to do was report the DISCHARGE OF A WEAPON, as Border Patrol policy dictates and they would still be on the job today.
A month later, when Aldrete-Davila became known, they would be on record and it would have been their word against his and thus, no prosecution.
Ramos and Compean, by their own action and inaction, are solely responsible for their predicament and where they are today. No one else! Not Johnny Sutton, not the Judge or the Courts, only themselves.
Take a moment and download the transcripts and read for yourself and with an open mind. These guys got what they deserved.
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